The 70 going through some changes [Archive]

fleming23

12-12-2011, 11:13 AM

Here is a build thread of sorts as I am putting the 70 under the knife for some mechanical & cosmetic changes.

I put a Yearone crate 350 in the car around this same time last year and while it is plenty potent for an iron headed small block, somehow it just wasn't what this car needed. Did some prodding around online and came close to buying a motor from a builder in Colorado when I started talking to Bill (Billscamino) who is pulling his freshly built 496 out to put a 396 in its place. Knowing what when into his motor, who assembled it and the fact that it was local sealed the deal.

Part list;
454 - 4 bolt main, bored +.060" over.
Probe Forged rotating assembly

Mike Lewis built AFR 290 heads
Mike Lewis custom ground hydraulic roller cam
RPM Air Gap intake (port matched $$)
Morel Lifters
Comp Ultra Pro Magnum 1.7 Rockers
Pro-Systems 1000HP Carb
Stewart Aluminum High Flow water pump
3" Magnaflow X-Pipe exhaust
Doug's 1 7/8" - 3.5" Ceramic Coated Headers
& all the miscellaneous stuff that goes along with a SBC to BBC swap

Car currently sits on 225/70-14 SS wheels which barely get traction with 311 rwhp so those will have to go.

I placed a call to Specialty Wheel to have some 15x10 SS replicas made (also ordered 15x7 fronts) to hopefully get some rubber & traction behind the new power plant. I came very close to changing the wheels over to Billet Specialties Street Lites, running skinny fronts & drag radials in the back but decided I wanted to try to keep the factory appearance as much as possible. Unfortunately, I'll probably put BFG Radial T/As on the car as I really want the raised white letter look so traction will still suffer but hopefully not nearly as bad as with the 14" wheels/tires.

While I was at it I ordered an HRParts Anti-roll bar which will replace the UMI Front & Rear sway bars currently on the car. Everyone seems to be very pleased with the performance from the HR ARB so I look forward to putting it to good use with all this new found torque!

That's about it for now....

Finally some proper muscle behind the Green Beast! Should easily make over 600 crank horsepower with this combo while maintaining 9.5:1 compression and working A/C.

fleming23

12-12-2011, 01:11 PM

Forgot this one.

Ordered the fittings & rag joint from Lee Manufacturing to convert the steering box over to a Jeep Grand Cherokee box as well. Just need to go by the part store and pick up a reman'd steering box. Between the ARB & steering box this thing should drive like an entirely different vehicle!

BillsCamino

12-12-2011, 06:17 PM

:cool:
The 496 should be out of my '67 on Sunday afternoon. Then I get to begin the installation of the Vintage Air system before the new motor goes in. :banana:
The AC kit has been sitting in it's box for over a year...

fleming23

12-12-2011, 06:25 PM

I am struggling right now trying to decide what type of A/C to do with this motor. I really wanted to put a serpentine set up on it but didn't want to loose my brand new A6 (behemoth) compressor in place of a Sanden. Looks like I am just going to use factory BB brackets and keep the stock set up. Definitely one of those things I wanted sorted out before Summer rolls back around here in Georgia!

flash

12-12-2011, 06:34 PM

Wow ,sounds like youre both going to be busy . Eric ,what do you have planned for the sway bars you are taking off ?

fleming23

12-12-2011, 06:37 PM

Wow ,sounds like youre both going to be busy . Eric ,what do you have planned for the sway bars you are taking off ?

I've got them up on Craigslist right now to see if there is any interest.
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/pts/2748912330.html

I was not 100% sure on not running a front sway bar but it seems many people do it with the HRparts ARB so it seems I will no longer need it. I am not trying to carve corners in this car anyway.

It is definitely getting ready to get busy in the garage for the next few weeks!

Ms Grumpy

12-12-2011, 06:51 PM

Sounds like there is a lot of work to do. But it is so nice to get parts from someone when you know where they came from and for you Eric, you know who built the motor. So cool guys.

BillsCamino

12-12-2011, 07:26 PM

Eric,
I installed a HRParts ARB on my '70 Malibu years ago...was probably one of the first to do so on a Chevelle.
I did not use a front sway bar although that car was more setup for straight line performance than running an obstacle course. Handling on the street/highway was fine.
However, that ARB does make for a rougher/stiffer ride on the street...

MAKE SURE you get a Grand Cherokee steering box...NOT one that a "fits all" replacement. Big difference.

fleming23

12-12-2011, 07:29 PM

Eric,
I installed a HRParts ARB on my '70 Malibu years ago...was probably one of the first to do so on a Chevelle.
I did not use a front sway bar although that car was more setup for straight line performance than running an obstacle course. Handling on the street/highway was fine.
However, that ARB does make for a rougher/stiffer ride on the street...

Yeah, I did quite a bit of looking around on TC and found quite a few of your posts from 06 & 07 talking about it. I don't mind the stiffer ride really because it is pretty floaty as it is.

fleming23

12-14-2011, 09:32 AM

Well, she is in pieces..

Great time to take everything off the firewall and clean it all up a bit as it is looking pretty bad.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/th_IMG_0153.jpg (http://s375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/?action=view&current=IMG_0153.jpg)
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/th_IMG_0154.jpg (http://s375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/?action=view&current=IMG_0154.jpg)

Going to a new home Monday
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/th_IMG_0152.jpg (http://s375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/?action=view&current=IMG_0152.jpg)

flash

12-14-2011, 01:37 PM

I hope that pretty paint dont get hurt and I think someone got a heck of a deal in that new motor. I wish I had been in a position to buy it but just could not swing it .

fleming23

12-14-2011, 03:02 PM

So far so good on the paint! If I had more room or thought I would have another project in the next few years I would have just kept that motor but unfortunately I am maxed out in my little garage. It was a pretty potent little engine for not really having anything special.

Tonight I am going to start taking everything off the firewall and get it all gussied up. I have a whole array of parts from Ground-up on the way to the house right now

BillsCamino

12-14-2011, 04:21 PM

Cool Eric...looks like I'm right behind you...
I'm just waiting for my engine hoist to be returned on Saturday. A buddy borrowed it last June. :(
I've put so many engines in this '67 I've got it worked out where I don't even need to remove the hood.

flash

12-14-2011, 06:20 PM

Bill .Im surprised that 67 isnt trained to change its own engines by now.

shadowgray396

12-14-2011, 10:30 PM

Looks like you will be busy with your project. Not sure how I have missed this post.

Ray

fleming23

12-16-2011, 01:20 PM

Did a little bit of work on the firewall yesterday. Don't think I am going any more detailed than this. Probably hit it with a wire brush and some semi-gloss chassis coat the put it all back together. I did have to drill out the steering box as some jack-hole broke the head off a bolt many years ago. That was a PITA!

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/th_IMG_0165.jpg (http://s375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/?action=view&current=IMG_0165.jpg)

fleming23

12-16-2011, 01:21 PM

Tires also came in. Not drag radials or anything crazy like that but they should definitely be an improvement.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/th_IMG_0157.jpg (http://s375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/?action=view&current=IMG_0157.jpg)

flash

12-16-2011, 01:36 PM

Looking good ,keep it up.

70SS396

12-16-2011, 01:44 PM

I love threads like this, it's cool to see the build come along.

Ms Grumpy

12-16-2011, 05:57 PM

I love threads like this, it's cool to see the build come along.

I agree. Sometimes you even get a little jealous. :) In a good way.

flash

12-17-2011, 12:31 AM

fleming23

12-17-2011, 09:17 AM

Im definitely jealous as Im not doing anything with our cars due to lack of funds .Joans daily driver has got to have front brake rotors and pads as well as new tires very soon but Im not sure how Im going to do it unless I use the funds currently being hald for my truck restoration.

How's the truck coming anyway? We drove past the shop on the way up to Blue Ridge yesterday. I'm sure everything will work out! Good reason to put some miles on that nice looking Elky you have hidden in the garage!

flash

12-17-2011, 04:01 PM

The truck hasnt been touched since before you were there last ,they are taking on as much insurance work as they can get before it dries up. The insurance work is what pays their bills so I just have to be patient. I have been driving the El Camino some lately but it needs a little TLC and I just dont yet have any funds for it since I just wrote 2 counties a big check for property taxes and just recently refurbished our rental property after the previous tennants destroyed it .I had hoped my Christmas present this year would be my truck coming home from the bodyshop but maybe by spring I will have it back in time to bring it to the Peachstate Chevelle show to sell a few parts at the swap meet. It will be worth the wait when they get started on it again.

flash

12-18-2011, 04:26 PM

Did you get anything done on it today ?

BillsCamino

12-18-2011, 05:35 PM

Engine hoist was returned to me yesterday.
My engine is out of the '67 this afternoon...and the short block resting on engine legs on the shop floor waiting to be loaded into my truck and delivered. Bowtie smiley

fleming23

12-18-2011, 09:44 PM

Bill,

Just let me know when you have time to drop the motor off. I am actually taking most of tomorrow off (not sure I'll get the entire day or not) so if you want to get it out of your way let me know. Mike has my heads on order but I am not sure when they will actually be done and ready to put on the block so I am not really in a hurry. I guesstimate it will be after the 1st before we can start putting the motor together anyway.

John,

Didn't do much this weekend unfortunately. We went up to Blue Ridge and stayed for the past few days but I did start putting things back together this afternoon. I wanted to get my anti-roll bar on but my drill battery crapped out on my in the middle of drilling my 4th and final hole in the cross-member. Should be able to finish that in the morning.

Today's progress; had an entire porch full of boxes when we got home today.

Jeep Grand Cherokee Box ready to bolt in once I get some new hardware. Had to cut the one of the old bolts out and the other two were pretty pitted
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/th_IMG_0169.jpg (http://s375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/?action=view&current=IMG_0169.jpg)

Still have some work to do but it is looking a bit better when compared side-by-side with before photo. The new A/C box is at least clean! I need to get some of the crap off the evaporator lines. Hoping some steel wool will help.
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/th_IMG_0170.jpg (http://s375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/?action=view&current=IMG_0170.jpg)http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/th_IMG_0153.jpg (http://s375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/?action=view&current=IMG_0153.jpg)

Exhaust and boxes of other misc. stuff ready to go on. Quite a few boxes like this starting to stack up around the garage!
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/th_IMG_0172.jpg (http://s375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/?action=view&current=IMG_0172.jpg)

I forgot these shipped already. Haven't opened the box yet but will be glad to get them on the car
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/th_IMG_0173.jpg (http://s375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/?action=view&current=IMG_0173.jpg)

fleming23

12-18-2011, 09:50 PM

fleming23

12-20-2011, 11:34 AM

Ordered a new converter from Jake's Performance today. Hopefully a billet street/strip lockup 10.5" 3,200 stall converter will do the trick. Was hoping to get by with the modified D5 but it seems it would have been short lived with the torque of the 496.

Always unplanned expenses with these things....

http://www.jakesperformance.com/images/9.5billet_m4ys.jpg

BillsCamino

12-20-2011, 02:17 PM

Short block delivered today!! Bowtie smiley

flash

12-20-2011, 04:14 PM

This is going to get interesting.

fleming23

12-20-2011, 05:59 PM

Short block delivered today!! Bowtie smiley

This is going to get interesting.

If only AFR wasn't shut down for the holiday(s)....I'd like to start putting this thing together!!!! I stopped by and took a look at the motor and dropped off some brackets to be powder coated. Everything looks good! Can't wait! Spent some time on the phone with Chris Straub and Mike Lewis this afternoon getting a few loose ends tied up. Looks like I'll have to wait until after the 1st before we start putting this thing back together. Still waiting on the new wheels to arrive anyway.

Thanks Bill! Glad I could take the motor off your hands!

BillsCamino

12-20-2011, 07:34 PM

It was kind of funny...

The the owner of the performance shop you're using in Dallas told me today he worked for a Ford dealership for like 10 years and obviously by looking around his shop there are quite a few Mustang and Falcon projects in the works.
He and his workers were mildly amused that I was dropping off a healthy big block CHEVY out of the back of my '10 F-150. :D

fleming23

12-27-2011, 10:30 AM

Took advantage of UMI's discount and ordered up some new tubular Upper & Lower A-arms this morning (w/taller ball joints) along with new inner & outer tie rods, idler arm, new springs and other miscellaneous suspension components so now the entire front suspension will be refreshed when it hits the road again.

This is going to be a completely different car when I get behind the wheel.....

Black powder coat instead of red
http://www.umiperformance.com/catalog/images/medium/403133a_MED.jpg

flash

12-27-2011, 05:07 PM

That car is going to be so different you will have to re learn how to drive it.

fleming23

12-27-2011, 06:40 PM

That car is going to be so different you will have to re learn how to drive it.

No kidding.... The motor, transmission, front & rear suspension, wheel/tires & steering have all been touched since I pulled it in for the winter. It will be a completely different feel behind the wheel

fleming23

12-29-2011, 01:04 PM

Well, while the front is all apart I might as well do something with the brakes too....right?

Lindsay got me a Summit Racing gift card for Christmas so I am going to use it to purchase Wilwood D52 2 piston calipers to put in place of the factory single (and still retain the factory style 15" wheels.) This will be more of a cosmetic change than anything else but it should allow for better heat dissipation in repeated heavy braking situations. Might have to take the car to an autocross event just for fun :) Wonder if we'll be doing it at CB this year? I got fried being a cone wrangler in the sun last year so this year I might take the car for a trip around the track.

This is what they'll look like once installed. Probably order them tonight when I get home so I should have them this weekend to install! I think my rims will be here either today or tomorrow too so I can get the car back on the ground and get it ready to be towed back to the shop to have the motor dropped in. Starting to get antsy around here waiting!
http://image.popularhotrodding.com/f/tech/gm-replacement-caliper/26812214+w225+cr1+re0+ar1/wilwoods-d52-caliper-in-red.jpg

fleming23

12-29-2011, 01:10 PM

Just found out my AFRs delivered!!! WOOOHOOO!!

flash

12-29-2011, 01:48 PM

I need to follow behind you and nab your old parts ,your whole car is going to be new.

fleming23

12-29-2011, 02:08 PM

Didn't one of yours need new brakes? Not sure what was needed but you are welcome to my calipers & pads if you are ever down this way. They are just about brand new anyway. Don't think I am replacing the rotors though (at least not yet...)

Edit: Nevermind, I see above where you said it needed rotors. If I decide to pull mine off I'll let you know but don't expect I will change them.

flash

12-29-2011, 03:48 PM

I could use a caliper on the driver side if they are the same and they should be .Let me know what you want for it ,I forgot one of mine is dragging.Heck ,let me know on both as with my luck change one the other fails. I wish I could find USA made replacement rotors but I've had no luck .

fleming23

12-29-2011, 05:46 PM

If you come down this way anytime soon you can have both. Not looking for any money for them. Just let me know the next time you are in the Marietta/Kennesaw/Dallas area and I'll try to meet you.

flash

12-29-2011, 10:13 PM

I'll be at Town Center Mall tomorrow night so I could meet you pretty much anywhere .I have to be at H.H. Gregg after work.

fleming23

12-29-2011, 10:28 PM

I'll be at Town Center Mall tomorrow night so I could meet you pretty much anywhere .I have to be at H.H. Gregg after work.

I am not 100% sure I'll have time to take them off tomorrow but I'll see what I can do. I placed my order at Summit this evening at around 6:30 and I already have a tracking number for most of the parts (best part about ordering from Summit, they are fast), except the new calipers of course. I think the calipers might be drop shipped unfortunately so they might not show up tomorrow like I had hoped. Anyway, give me a call (PM me if you need my number) and I'll try to meet you out there. Actually just remembered, Lindsay and I are meeting family to eat at Carrabba's on Barrett around 6:30 so I'll have to work around that too but will be just down the road. Heck, I can always sit them behind our car while we are eating and you could just swing by and pick them up.

fleming23

12-30-2011, 09:59 PM

Was able to get the rear tires mounted and put on the car tonight. Man, these things are beastly compared to the stock 225/70-14! Didn't lower the car on the ground yet but it appears the 295s should clear my wheel well lip. It'll definitely be snug though!

fleming23

12-30-2011, 10:15 PM

fleming23

12-31-2011, 05:16 PM

Put all the wheels on today along with the new UMI rear control arm reinforcements.

Ready to tote this thing back to the shop for a motor now!

Gas tank dropped & trunk pan cleaned up. Brand new tank is now in its place
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0182.jpg?t=1325373319
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0186.jpg?t=1325372787
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0191.jpg?t=1325372804
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0192.jpg?t=1325372816

shadowgray396

12-31-2011, 07:39 PM

flash

12-31-2011, 10:20 PM

Ray ,the pics dont do that car justice ,it looks even better in person. Its a beauty and Eric has really been busy.Those wheels and tires look great too.

68ChevelleSS

12-31-2011, 10:43 PM

Very nice!

fleming23

01-01-2012, 09:14 AM

Eric, went back and reviewed everything you have been doing and looked at your photo bucket pictures. Very impressive. Like the look of the wide tires in the back on the stock looking rims. Also very nice looking car. Always like the Forest green on the Chevelles. Keep the pictures coming.

Ray
Thanks! I really liked the factory SS 14" wheel and would have loved to keep them on the car but with the new motor there was no way I would ever even dream of getting traction. The 15x10 isn't too bad. I think it will grow on me once I get the car back on the ground and start driving it again.

It has definitely been quite a project!

Ray ,the pics dont do that car justice ,it looks even better in person. Its a beauty and Eric has really been busy.Those wheels and tires look great too.

Very nice!
Thanks guys! I have loved the Chevelle since I was a kid and get excited every time I see mine! I guess the day that feeling wears off will be the day I stop pouring time and money into it (so hopefully never?)

SS Shaun

01-01-2012, 01:29 PM

i love those tires. and i like that rear diff cover i was thinking about getting one of those also but i can't stomach spending 150 bucks on that...lol

fleming23

01-01-2012, 01:48 PM

i love those tires. and i like that rear diff cover i was thinking about getting one of those also but i can't stomach spending 150 bucks on that...lol

Thanks! The diff cover not only looks "beefy" but is also functional. With the power this car will be putting to the pavement having the extra main cap support can't hurt. With a stock rear spring/ride height you can't really see the diff cover unless it is on a lift anyway.

smokenjoep01

01-03-2012, 09:17 AM

SWEEEET! Got any pictures with the new control arms installed?

fleming23

01-03-2012, 09:57 AM

SWEEEET! Got any pictures with the new control arms installed?

The front A-Arms are not on yet. That'll happen once the car goes back to the shop. I'll be sure to take pictures though!

70SS396

01-03-2012, 09:57 AM

She is looking great! I really like the rally wheels. I might pick up a set and swap them back and forth with my centerlines when I want a change. Great work!!

fleming23

01-03-2012, 10:08 AM

She is looking great! I really like the rally wheels. I might pick up a set and swap them back and forth with my centerlines when I want a change. Great work!!

Thanks, I think once the car is on the ground I will appreciate the new wheels and stance. I will likely pick me up something else to swap on for those occasional track days though.

flash

01-03-2012, 01:39 PM

I cant wait to see the complete package again ,its going to be nice.

fleming23

01-03-2012, 07:45 PM

New calipers came in this afternoon. It will be a shame to hide these things behind the SS wheels. A little "flashy" for what I have tried to keep as an otherwise stock appearing car but I think I like them. They will still be visible to the trained eye
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0193.jpg?t=1325641511
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0194.jpg?t=1325641495

flash

01-03-2012, 09:58 PM

Boy them are purty .

smokenjoep01

01-04-2012, 08:04 AM

Boy them are purty .

Uha! Real purty

SS Shaun

01-04-2012, 08:30 AM

wow those brakes are pretty! one day once my chevelle is up and running i will do all those things! BTW i love those wheels what size are they and what are they? mine look nothing like that

fleming23

01-04-2012, 08:49 AM

The rear wheels are 15x10 (5.5" backspacing) SS replicas from Specialty Wheel with 295/50-15 MT rear tire and 15x7 fronts (245/60-15). I don't like way the trim ring looks on a 15" compared to the 14" but after a few months I don't think I'll even notice the difference any more.

SS Shaun

01-04-2012, 10:57 AM

Only photo of them right now. Rear wheel after getting the tire mounted. I debated putting trim rings on as I kind of liked the bare look but in the ended decided to go with trim rings
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/Rearwheel.jpg?t=1325304905

which one do you think looks better? your wheel or my wheel?
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/civiclxb16a/chevelle/IMG_4917.jpg

i will take your wheels any day over mine...lol

RBeckman

01-04-2012, 11:11 AM

which one do you think looks better? your wheel or my wheel?
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/civiclxb16a/chevelle/IMG_4917.jpg

i will take your wheels any day over mine...lol

Shaun,

If you are looking for a new set of of your old wheels and tires you might want to talk to Flint Tony, as he had a set on the Camaro I bought from him but I chose the Z-28 style wheels instead...it was like ordering a car from a dealership...Power steering or Manual, Spolier or no Spolier, original air cleaner or Z-28 air cleaner, Original valve covers or LT1 style, car cover,....he even filled the tank up before I picked it up. The only bad thing was no warranty (see my earlier posts about the clock not working).

But he is a good salesman, he always has beer when we are there and great stories.

1755

SS Shaun

01-04-2012, 11:15 AM

o i am no where near ready for a set of wheels for the chevelle. i need to get my motor and trans in and ready first. once its in and i can start it up THEN and only then will i worry about the looks of the car. after getting off the phone with the trans shop looks like i am going to have a nice size bill :(

fleming23

01-05-2012, 05:58 PM

Not necessarily Chevelle related but the Chevelle is the main reason for this purchase so here is my latest gadget. Can't wait to use it to get some HD live action of the car!

GoPro Hero2, LCD & Memory Card
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/Miscellaneous%20Pictures/IMG_0212.jpg?t=1325808049

flash

01-05-2012, 09:39 PM

This is going to be fun, hurry up .

fleming23

01-05-2012, 09:49 PM

This is going to be fun, hurry up .

You don't have to tell me! I wish it was driving right now! I have an enormous amount of odds and ends on a truck somewhere in tennessee right now headed this way. After that I just need the cam, intake, carb and lifters. Those 4 items are supposed to ship next week. Hopefully in about 2 weeks the motor will start going together!

flash

01-05-2012, 09:52 PM

Its hell trying to be patient isnt it ?

fleming23

01-09-2012, 09:07 PM

John (Flash),

Good news for you and the economy. My spending spree has no end in sight it seems. I went ahead and ordered new rotors tonight. It'll be a few weeks before everything is apart but I know these Auto Zone replacements currently on the car only have 2-300 miles on them. I am also replacing my rubber hoses with braided so if you want those they are nearly new and were both replaced with the calipers a few months ago. I'll let you know when you can pick everything up. Since the spindles are being replaced (and thus the reason for all new parts as all the old has to come off anyway) I will probably see if the shop can just leave everything mounted to the spindles and you can pick up two large, assembled, damn-near new sub-assemblies with everything you need.

Ordered new SSBC Big Bite Cross Drilled rotors to replace the factory blanks.
I know all about the debate regarding cross-drilled rotors being more prone to cracking and having less surface area resulting in the potential decreased braking performance but this is what I decided to try.

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/norm/ssb-23005aa3l_m.jpg

Also ordering new Bilstein HPS 1000 shocks for all 4 corners. I did a good bit of reading prior to making this decision and was torn between the Edlebrock IAS and these. Some say the Bilstein's have a firm ride others say they are excellent. Had Monroe Sensa-tracs on the car and they did okay I guess but with everything else I decided to ditch the $25 shocks in favor of a supposedly better performing shock. (John, interested in a full suspension rebuild on the vert ;) )

http://htsmall.ecklerschevelle.com/assets/chvl/images/size/265x265/sku/654069.jpg

Only other update was the order of a bunch of fittings & bolts to hopefully make the motor build go as seamless as possible.

flash

01-09-2012, 09:49 PM

All my suspension is fairly new except the brakes ,they have about 40,000 miles on them.

fleming23

01-09-2012, 09:54 PM

Cool. Well hopefully these parts will get your vert ready for the spring road trips! The rotors, calipers and lines really are nearly new.

SS Shaun

01-10-2012, 09:21 AM

man you are going all out! looks great man

fleming23

01-10-2012, 09:51 AM

man you are going all out! looks great man

Yeah, it is getting a little ridiculous. I think I am done for a while once all this goes on/in. I updated my spreadsheet tracking my expenses and decided I have gone far enough with this thing. But really, there isn't much else I wanted to do with the car as a whole. I am sure there will be little projects that will continue but the major items should be behind me now. Paint/Body work done, New floor pans, replaced all the interior, swapped to an SS Dash, 12 Bolt swap, OD Transmission, Big Block, Working A/C, larger wheels; all complete.

flash

01-10-2012, 11:15 AM

They are money pits and never done ,at least thats how mine are. My problem is I ran out of money with too many cars.

SS Shaun

01-10-2012, 11:25 AM

lol i feel you flash! i am to the point where i am wondering how much more i can keep saving for my trans i might just give up and get a tko since i can afford that :(

carpoor

01-10-2012, 07:21 PM

They are money pits and never done ,at least thats how mine are. My problem is I ran out of money with too many cars.

Quoted for fact. I do believe I am going to try and market my Camaro SS this year so I can have one less vehicle to contend with.

fleming23

01-10-2012, 07:36 PM

Quoted for fact. I do believe I am going to try and market my Camaro SS this year so I can have one less vehicle to contend with.

Good luck with your sale! It is an iffy market. Quality cars seem to bring decent money as always but everything else seems to be very hit or miss. I've seen some pretty decent looking cars advertised for quite a while lately.

fleming23

01-15-2012, 04:46 PM

Pulled up the tracking numbers and the remaining 3 parts will be delivered on Tuesday so the motor build should begin very soon!

Haven't really done anything else to the car but I did take it off the jack stands today for the first time since this build began. I love the rear wheels and they look like they will clear just fine (but I'll need to do some *spirited* driving to put a load on the rear suspension to see if I have any rubs.)

Hopefully will post some build updates with more things going together pretty soon!

Rear tire sitting on the ground
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0254.jpg?t=1326667298

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0255.jpg?t=1326667308
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0256.jpg?t=1326667317

68ChevelleSS

01-15-2012, 05:47 PM

looks good!

flash

01-15-2012, 06:42 PM

That looks very nice ,I need to do some cleaning on mine.

fleming23

01-15-2012, 06:55 PM

That looks very nice ,I need to do some cleaning on mine.

I guess that is the one good thing about my car not moving right now....other than collecting some dust it is not really getting dirty.

flash

01-15-2012, 08:36 PM

I'll bet it will soon have black rubbery residue on the rear quarters after you get her back together.

fleming23

01-15-2012, 08:49 PM

I'll bet it will soon have black rubbery residue on the rear quarters after you get her back together.

Rust proofing

shadowgray396

01-15-2012, 09:07 PM

Looking impressive.

fleming23

01-20-2012, 06:27 PM

Work began on the motor today. Hope lots of progress is made tomorrow!

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/photo.jpg?t=1327105674

SS Shaun

01-20-2012, 07:40 PM

nice man!!

flash

01-20-2012, 08:59 PM

I was going to ask how things were going on your build but it appears to be going well ,keep us posted .I cant wait to see the car finished again ,or as finished as they get.

fleming23

01-24-2012, 09:41 AM

flash

01-24-2012, 10:21 PM

At least your project is moving along and you will be finished soon .I have got to get busy and do some serious cleaning on our vert and the Camino. Maybe even clean the 55 again as its getting a little word of mouth attention.

fleming23

01-25-2012, 07:08 AM

I had a little interest generated last week on your 55 but it was either people wanting to trade or wanting to go in with you to "restore" it and try to sell it at a profit. I obviously didn't waste your time with those.

BillsCamino

01-25-2012, 09:17 AM

Everything was getting mocked up today and we have Piston to Valve issues.

Looks like the motor is going to come completely apart now to have just a little machine work done on the pistons. Minor set back. Still hoping to have something that resembles a long block by the end of the week!

Crap.
Hard to believe those flat top pistons are giving you PTV issues. :o
Is it because of the 2.30" diameter intake valves??

fleming23

01-25-2012, 09:31 AM

I am sure the combination of valves (although I believe they are only 2.25" on the intake and I don't remember what you had on this thing) and a head that was seriously milled down to try to squeeze a solid 9.5:1+ didn't help matters. No big deal. They did say the bearings looked brand new when they pulled everything apart. Kind of a piece of mind to know everything has been checked out at this point. As a side note, I think they sent the pistons over to Greg to have him machine them so he is still working on this thing.

BillsCamino

01-25-2012, 09:45 AM

I used GM -702 closed chamber heads w/2.19" & 1.88" valves. Those heads are 97cc chambers but I was only running a Comp Magnum 292 hyd tappet cam with .540" lift.
The good thing is Greg will turn those pistons out quickly.
I just hate it for 'ya...I would have never guessed.

fleming23

01-28-2012, 11:51 AM

Greg needed to get a different bit to mill the pistons so still no real progress. Although, everything is laid out and ready to go together just as soon as the pistons show up. I expect the motor to be ready to drop in this time next week (fingers crossed)

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0282.jpg?t=1327773026
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0283.jpg?t=1327773035
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0284.jpg?t=1327773048

Had Terry Cowger create me new decals for my air cleaner
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0285.jpg?t=1327773078

flash

01-28-2012, 07:05 PM

At least youre making progress.

fleming23

01-29-2012, 08:20 PM

This weekend I ordered another set of 15x10 SS wheels (after much deliberation and after being VERY close to ordering a complete set of Billet Specialty Street Lites) and some tires to be used for track days.

MT Street Radial 28x12.5R15
http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/MTT-3755R.jpg

Also picked up a new Bell M.4 helmet in matte black. Getting closer to terrorizing small children and little ladies with this thing!

flash

01-29-2012, 10:11 PM

Chevellabration and Drag Racing ?

fleming23

01-29-2012, 10:13 PM

Chevellabration and Drag Racing ?

Absolutely! Just so long as I can fit the drag wheels in the trunk. Not really sure how much room is actually back there.

BillsCamino

01-30-2012, 06:29 AM

Absolutely! Just so long as I can fit the drag wheels in the trunk. Not really sure how much room is actually back there.

Eric,
I'd be glad to transport the wheels/tires. I'll be trailering my '67 and will have plenty of room in the truck's bed.;) And it's covered...

fleming23

01-30-2012, 07:38 AM

Eric,
I'd be glad to transport the wheels/tires. I'll be trailering my '67 and will have plenty of room in the truck's bed.;) And it's covered...

Very well might take you up on that! Thank you sir!

fleming23

02-01-2012, 08:51 PM

Hopefully money well spent! It cost more to port this intake than the actual intake cost.
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/6bb59fd6.jpg?t=1328151104

Pistons were finished up today so lots of progress should be made soon!

flash

02-02-2012, 06:21 AM

Looking forward to more results and pics .

70SS396

02-02-2012, 06:25 AM

Looking forward to more results and pics .

+1, build threads are awesome.:banana:

fleming23

02-09-2012, 06:24 PM

Updates
http://www.mosspeedshop.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1291&stc=1&d=1328828177
http://www.mosspeedshop.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1292&stc=1&d=1328828255
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/4a66ea87.jpg?t=1328806745
How it looked when I left this afternoon
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/5fdf238b.jpg?t=1328833205

Hope everything goes together this week and we can get the car in Saturday or early next week to begin the rest of the build!!

flash

02-09-2012, 10:18 PM

Damn ,that looks nice.

shadowgray396

02-09-2012, 11:07 PM

Great looking set up.

fleming23

02-10-2012, 05:47 PM

Going to try and run the Cowl Air Cleaner that has been sitting in my basement. Might have to do a little cutting & hammering.
http://www.mosspeedshop.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1295&stc=1&d=1328915591

Debating if I want to get a polished alternator or keep the natural autozone special.

Edit: 15 minutes later. :) Old alternator is getting replaced with a polished Powermaster signature 100 amp. Order placed. Not big into TOO much chrome so hopefully this'll blend nicely with the rest of the accessory brackets & pulleys!

fleming23

02-14-2012, 09:46 AM

No photo updates but a few items added to the list.

Ordered new front & rear seat covers & foam, headrest covers, frt & rr door panels & package tray from Legendary Auto Interiors as well as new ACC mass backed carpet. Plan on having a professional put it all in while at the shop. I did everything myself the first time and it turned out decent but I am no professional. Going to dig the original rear arm rests out of the basement and attempt to match the pearl paint with some SEM Phantom White so I can remove the crappy aftermarket junk I put in the first time.

Ordered a tilt column from Ground Up which is a rebuilt GM column so that should install nice and give me the ability to put on 30 or 40 pounds later in life :grin: (Hopefully going the other direction but you never know.)

New Motor, new suspension & brakes, new interior, new wheels, 1 year old body & paint work, pretty much a new car now.

flash

02-14-2012, 11:08 AM

Just dont tally up all those receipts ,its amazing how much we can spend on these things.

70SS396

02-14-2012, 11:26 AM

Man, that engine is a work of art! Nice job!

flash

02-14-2012, 04:21 PM

His whole car is a work of art .

fleming23

02-14-2012, 06:37 PM

70SS396

02-14-2012, 06:42 PM

If by work of art you mean something you look at but really shouldn't even consider buying because of the ridiculous expense, then yes, I agree. http://www.musclecar-evolution.com/forums/images/smilies2/argh.gif

Well, in that case, yes. LOL

That's the nature of our "hobby". As they say, the only difference between men and boys are the price of their toys.

flash

02-15-2012, 06:50 PM

I have been collecting Hot Wheels lately ,they are cheaper ,take up less space ,dont use gas and dont need insurance. But the downside is they aint nearly as much fun.

fleming23

02-22-2012, 07:14 AM

Yesterday I had a box from Ground Up sitting on my porch with my newly rebuilt GM tilt column inside. I put it in the car and man what a difference! I didn't realize how badly worn my column shifter was and how horrible the ignition switch felt in my original non-tilt column. This thing is smooth like butter! Now the horn works again and my turn signals have a very positive feel when engaging and switching off. It is amazing the difference all new parts make!

Car was supposed to be dropped off at the shop yesterday but it just didn't happen. Today after work it will be going even if I have to call Hagerty's and have them tow it all 3 miles to the shop!

fleming23

02-22-2012, 07:40 PM

Well she is off to the shop to have the motor dropped in along with my 50 other projects. Shouldn't be long now!
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/cf8b3a2d.jpg?t=1329955646

flash

02-22-2012, 07:47 PM

She looks mean from the rear with those wide tires ,keep us posted on the progress.

fleming23

02-22-2012, 07:59 PM

She looks mean from the rear with those wide tires ,keep us posted on the progress.

You still interested in some front brake parts?

I do like the new stance with the rear wheels. Can't wait to try it out with the MT ET Street radials as well! Just got those mounted on the same wheels I have on now and they look nice and sticky!

flash

02-23-2012, 08:35 AM

Yes ,still interested in brake parts just been too busy with the boys and life to get to them. It may be the Peachstate Show before I see you .I still have the posters set aside and may even have more extras. Im still going through stuff in my shop and finding new old treasures.

fleming23

02-23-2012, 08:51 AM

No worries and no hurry! When we put the car on the lift yesterday and were prodding around under it I mentioned having them just pull everything off as an assembly so it'll be easier to keep up with. If it is the Peachstate show before we see each other, no problem. I'll throw everything in a box and put it all in the basement with all my other parts I seem to have no use for (like the steering column I just removed and don't really know why I should keep). My goal is to not have hidden treasures when I finally move out of this house!

fleming23

02-23-2012, 07:35 PM

Motor went in the car tonight. Might have a better video later. Apparently when you text someone a video the quality is significantly reduced.

First just a few teaser shots
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0376.jpg?t=1330047431
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0377.jpg?t=1330047441
Hanging from the picker
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0378.jpg?t=1330047451

Bad quality video, but progress, none-the-less!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pIdy9e9OZo

flash

02-23-2012, 09:29 PM

Great video ,it wont be long at all now.

SS Shaun

02-23-2012, 09:31 PM

congrats man! hope to hear it running soon

shadowgray396

02-24-2012, 08:45 AM

Next video will be it running. Looking really good. Congrats.

fleming23

02-25-2012, 09:56 PM

Few photos of current progress.

The transmission went in yesterday and the headers & exhaust were put in place today. The Magnaflow 3" exhaust kit fit like dog do-do. The exhaust pipes are too short by about 8 inches so those will have to be modified. If things continue at this pace the front suspension will be done by mid week and this car should be ready by next weekend (or at least on the dyno for tuning by then.)

Car as of first thing this morning
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/28ca8d91.jpg?t=1330134882

Doug's D316 1 7/8" Headers are TIGHT! I don't know how people fit 2" primaries on this car...
Had to clearance the 200-4R to get the passenger side to fit
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/57741a8d.jpg?t=1330214241
Driver side lower A-arm. Definitely tight!
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/2f50dfa2.jpg?t=1330214231

They sit nice and level and tuck up to the floor board real well
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/a149f77d.jpg?t=1330218453

Super short exhaust tail pipes that will need to be corrected
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/4600f337.jpg?t=1330214284

Motor sitting in place and getting ever so close to firing up!
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/e1593abb.jpg?t=1330214251

shadowgray396

02-25-2012, 10:06 PM

Looking good. One thing I have heard about some headers is being to close to the brake lines and distribution valve on the left side and causing problems. Again great looking job.

fleming23

02-25-2012, 10:10 PM

Looking good. One thing I have heard about some headers is being to close to the brake lines and distribution valve on the left side and causing problems. Again great looking job.

Thanks! The distribution block has decent clearance as I did take a look at it today, specifically because I have a new one to put in and wanted to make sure there was adequate room to work. Hopefully there won't be any problems, plus the Ceramic coating should help to some extent.

flash

02-25-2012, 11:49 PM

Looking good ,cant wait to hear the beast running.

fleming23

02-29-2012, 07:13 PM

Feeling a little surrounded at the shop today :eek:
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/IMG_0412.jpg?t=1330564369

Not done by any means but they anticipate starting the car tomorrow for the first time (sad I'll miss it). Still need some finishing touches under the hood, a new drive shaft, exhaust tail pipes & the entire front suspension is yet to be touched but it is getting close to the point where I can feel it.

flash

02-29-2012, 08:38 PM

Its the best looking ride in that pic .

grandsport

02-29-2012, 09:27 PM

How did I miss this thread,with my most favoritest color in the whole world? Very stunning car!I really don't know much about all the other things you are doing,but it looks awesome. Funny thing,I noticed AFR on your heads.Instead of saying arf arf,my dog, after sipping some beer with me in the garage,goes afr afr.

flash

03-01-2012, 06:29 AM

No wonder your dogs love you ,youre making drunks out of them .LOL .One of my past weiner muts loved beer ,friends had to be careful not to sit one down in front of her as she was such a sot.

fleming23

03-03-2012, 04:15 PM

Today there was fire in the hole, albeit for 1.2 seconds... Waiting on a couple fittings to get the fuel line connected to the pump. Regardless, we squirted fuel in the carb and it fired for the first time! Unfortunately the phone does a poor job of capturing sound quality but it sounded nice and deep! Still have quite a few little things to finish up but it was nice to hear the car rumble again!

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0419.jpg?t=1330812640

Fuel pump was quite pricy but she sure is pretty!
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0423.jpg?t=1330812630

Really short video of it firing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bMOAPPmq_o

flash

03-03-2012, 05:23 PM

Getting closer ,cant wait. Its good to see progress on everyones ride except mine.

shadowgray396

03-03-2012, 06:24 PM

That is one awesome looking motor.

68ChevelleSS

03-07-2012, 08:27 AM

That is one awesome looking motor.

Ditto what Ray said. i love that pump and fuel line!

flash

03-07-2012, 11:12 AM

Come on Eric ,What is happening with the Beast.

fleming23

03-07-2012, 06:34 PM

Come on Eric ,What is happening with the Beast.

Not a whole lot of progress worth posting. Right now there are lots of little things that are being done that really seem minor in the grand scheme of things but are required to get everything going. For example, bending transmission lines, getting all the appropriate fittings for things like the trans cooler & fuel pump. Waiting on the lower alternator bracket to come back from powder coating.

Pulled the old booster & master off today & bolted the new booster in place. Looks much better!

Started the car and checked oil pressure today. Everything looks good! Let the car run for about 1 minute. I thought I had a video but apparently I either didn't press the record button or I accidentally erased it. Tomorrow/Friday work should begin on the suspension. The 1350 Yokes from Denny's Drive shaft will arrive tomorrow as well so hopefully we can get the drive shaft measured and ordered.

Technically the only thing the car needed today to go drive would have been belts, the lower alt. bracket and the drive shaft installed. That'll still be a little bit out but it is that close.

Today's photo
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0437.jpg?t=1331166650

flash

03-07-2012, 10:23 PM

Man that looks good .

SS Shaun

03-08-2012, 08:07 AM

looks great and sounds great so far! keep it up man

fleming23

03-09-2012, 06:25 PM

Few updates for today.

Front suspension rebuild complete!

These are the before pictures
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0375-1.jpg?t=1331339119
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0373-1.jpg?t=1331339135

Don't even begin to understand how the car sat level or rode worth a crap
Driver & passenger side front springs removed from car
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0448.jpg?t=1331338931

Today's progress
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0441.jpg?t=1331338989
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0443.jpg?t=1331338972
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0447.jpg?t=1331338940
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0449.jpg?t=1331338923
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0450.jpg?t=1331338902

fleming23

03-09-2012, 06:25 PM

Two more pictures

Everything assembled
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0452.jpg?t=1331338885

All complete
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0453.jpg?t=1331338874

flash

03-09-2012, 08:43 PM

Looks good ,I cant believe those old front springs.

fleming23

03-09-2012, 08:45 PM

Looks good ,I cant believe those old front springs.

I know! I really can't believe the car didn't sit at an angle. That is a pretty significant difference between driver & passenger side

shadowgray396

03-09-2012, 10:21 PM

Big difference on the springs, looks like you will have some stopping power with the front disc set up.

Ray

fleming23

03-17-2012, 04:24 PM

Not sure that a lot was done today but I was able to get in the car, start it and drive it from the post lift to the ramp lift on the other side of the shop. I call that progress. The drive shaft came in yesterday and after a 120 mile round trip to Summit racing for a new crush sleeve and seal we had the new 1350 yokes in and the car back on the ground.

Car should go on the dyno Tuesday when the shops opens again to get dialed in! Unfortunately I don't know that I'll be around to get any photos or video but I am super ready!

Here is the video I thought I lost from a few weeks ago with the first firing of the motor! We just got the motor together enough so that we could hear it roar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIcOnfvtOUk&feature=youtube_gdata

And a few photos from today.
New drive shaft next to the old. New 3.5" with 1350 joints all around
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0464.jpg?t=1332019358
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0467.jpg?t=1332019398

Setting the pinion
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0468.jpg?t=1332019420

All set up again....debated changing gears while we had everything out, but decided it was easiest to stick with the 3.42
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/IMG_0470.jpg?t=1332019462

flash

03-17-2012, 09:02 PM

Good deal ,youre almost there .

carpoor

03-18-2012, 04:48 PM

What are you doing with the old driveshaft? Is it a factory shaft for a TH400 68' - 72' Chevelle? If so, will you sell it? I need one for my Monte Carlo. Haven't had much luck finding one locally.

Ms Grumpy

03-18-2012, 05:45 PM

Looking real good !

fleming23

03-18-2012, 07:10 PM

What are you doing with the old driveshaft? Is it a factory shaft for a TH400 68' - 72' Chevelle? If so, will you sell it? I need one for my Monte Carlo. Haven't had much luck finding one locally.
It was a factory shaft from a TH350 so not sure if it is of use to you.

Looking real good !
Thanks! I am excited to get it back! We have had some beautiful weather lately!

flash

03-18-2012, 09:07 PM

Have you gotten to drive it on its new maiden voyage yet ?

fleming23

03-18-2012, 09:11 PM

Have you gotten to drive it on its new maiden voyage yet ?

Not yet. It'll probably be this weekend on the cruise down to Calloway gardens. Hopefully all goes well!

flash

03-19-2012, 06:28 AM

Calloway Gardens sounds like a fun time ,hopefully you have no issues.

carpoor

03-19-2012, 09:53 AM

Thanks for the reply, I already have a th350 driveshaft. I may end up just having mine shortened and putting a TH400 yoke on it.

fleming23

03-23-2012, 12:13 PM

It is Dyno time today!!!

Any predictions?
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/GOPR0016.jpg?t=1332522658

carpoor

03-23-2012, 12:16 PM

I'll say 460-480-ish rear wheel HP. And 30-40 more RWTQ than HP.

shadowgray396

03-23-2012, 06:23 PM

Thats one nice looking engine compartment under the hood.

carpoor

03-23-2012, 11:16 PM

Well? Inquiring minds want to know!

SS Shaun

03-24-2012, 01:17 AM

485 and its in his garage now :)

fleming23

03-24-2012, 06:22 AM

We only made one pull before the sun broke through the rainy clouds yesterday and I rushed it to the alignment shop. Going on a cruise today and will drive it this week to determine what the driveability needs.

On the pull
It made 488.76 HP & 458.59 TQ with the Prosystems carb straight out of the box and on 34 degrees of timing. With a conservative 25% drive train loss (automatic, mechanical fuel, water & clutch fan) that equates to 650 crank HP which was exactly what I told Mike Lewis I wanted out of this thing. I honestly expected around 440/440 to the tires so 489/459 was excellent and made more than everyone at the shop predicted!

Next Friday the car will be back for some dyno tuning & finishing up a few small things we just didn't have time to complete. Not sure the motor has much more in it but we will play with the timing and see.

fleming23

03-24-2012, 06:27 AM

Nice flat torque curve!
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/b8e3ddce.jpg?t=1332588534

shadowgray396

03-24-2012, 09:44 AM

Impressive, Have fun on your drive today.

carpoor

03-24-2012, 10:16 AM

Should run bottom 11's on a tire, possibly may break into the 10's. Depends on the converter, gearing, tire, vehicle weight. Any plans to throw a tire on it and see what it will do?

fleming23

03-24-2012, 01:08 PM

Should run bottom 11's on a tire, possibly may break into the 10's. Depends on the converter, gearing, tire, vehicle weight. Any plans to throw a tire on it and see what it will do?

I have a set of MT ET street radials mounted on a set of 15x10 factory style wheels to swap on so I have the tire. This thing has a 3.42 gear and a 3200 stall so it'll move but not set up for racing

carpoor

03-24-2012, 06:46 PM

My old 2000 Z28 was around 3800lbs with driver in race trim. It made 480RW on a stingy dyno. I had a SY3500 Yank converter, and 3.73 gears with a 28" tall drag radial. It was a consistent 10.7 - 10.8 car at 124-125 MPH. The best thing was the 23-24 MPG on the highway with the OD trans.

flash

03-24-2012, 08:11 PM

Very impressive results ,glad youre almost done.

fleming23

03-26-2012, 10:16 AM

Final Post /thread.

Pictures from the weekend cruise. Car did great. Broke an alternator belt but other than that was excellent! I managed 15-16 mpg on the interstate doing 80-85 mph which completely blew me away! I checked my odometer to the GPS for 100 miles just to make sure and it was only off by maybe 1 mile in the 100. Fuel tank full every time to the point I could see it in the filler neck. The small block didn't even do that well and I was booking it on the way back home from Phenix City, AL yesterday.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/Peach%20State%20Cruise%20to%20Callaway%20Gardens/b548db92.jpg?t=1332774668
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/Peach%20State%20Cruise%20to%20Callaway%20Gardens/DSC_1857.jpg?t=1332774924
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/Peach%20State%20Cruise%20to%20Callaway%20Gardens/DSC_1856.jpg?t=1332774928
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/Peach%20State%20Cruise%20to%20Callaway%20Gardens/DSC_1865.jpg?t=1332775018
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/Peach%20State%20Cruise%20to%20Callaway%20Gardens/DSC_1864.jpg?t=1332775025

flash

03-26-2012, 11:17 AM

Looks nice with those bigger tires/wheels ,how was the cruise ?

fleming23

03-26-2012, 11:24 AM

Looks nice with those bigger tires/wheels ,how was the cruise ?

Cruise was very nice! Excellent weather and no problems!

BillsCamino

03-26-2012, 05:02 PM

Excellent project Eric!!! I can't wait to see it again in person.
Great job. Bowtie smiley

shadowgray396

03-27-2012, 05:46 PM

Looks good Eric, like the background where took the pictures.

fleming23

03-27-2012, 06:13 PM

Little video of the first dyno pull. Scheduled to go back Friday to finish up some things. Transmission feels like it is slipping or something when shifting from 2-3 at WOT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=CWO7_m2FDAQ

fleming23

03-27-2012, 07:04 PM

One more video.

This was sort of a track pass. Went to Phenix City raceway in Alabama but the tower's computers would not come on so we were allowed to just make passes without a tree or slips. I went one time and spun pretty bad down the entire track on my street tires (left drag tires at home). Then the alternator belt broke and tied itself in a knot around the fan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef-r377Ivzo

flash

03-27-2012, 07:58 PM

Hopefully you get all the little things ironed out quickly.

BillsCamino

03-28-2012, 07:02 AM

I've never been to the Phenix City dragway...thanks for the "tour".

fleming23

03-28-2012, 07:17 AM

Just making sure everyone got the full effect! Could have been shortened to 10 seconds I am sure :rolleyes:

SS Shaun

03-28-2012, 09:10 AM

wow man for sure that is great! so happy for you man!!

flash

03-28-2012, 09:10 AM

Im thinking thats near where Derrell and Judy live ,our friends from Heart Of Dixie .

BillsCamino

03-28-2012, 10:14 AM

Phenix City is south west of Columbus, GA/Ft. Benning...just over the state line in AL.

flash

03-28-2012, 11:01 AM

OK ,they live farther over than that by a good ways .

fleming23

04-07-2012, 08:49 PM

Bumped the timing to 38 total.

I also had my heavy Mickey Thompson ET Street radials on the rear so that might have eaten a bit of my power.

Lost a little horsepower over the previous pull but picked up 20 ft/lbs of torque.

Still have not touched the carb other than adjusting the idle and lowering the bowls a little. This thing was perfect right out of the box! Huge kudos to Patrick & Prosystems on a great carb!

Final rear wheel numbers today, 480hp/478tq
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/Big%20Block%20Build/DynoGraph.jpg

shadowgray396

04-08-2012, 01:07 AM

Looking like some good numbers. I bet with a little adjustments the HP will come up.

flash

04-25-2012, 07:39 PM

Eric ,whats happening with your 70 ,havent seen any results lately ?

fleming23

04-26-2012, 07:29 AM

Eric ,whats happening with your 70 ,havent seen any results lately ?

Not a whole lot to post right now as the car is having a few problems fixed....

First the new goodies.

I replaced the entire interior with new panels & covers from Legendary and it turned out GREAT! Unfortunately I don't have any pictures yet but will try to get some. I still need to put the front door panels on as I didn't have any clips. New carpet from ACC & seats were installed by a guy I know from Marietta Auto Trim as a side job and they turned out excellent!! Very happy with the interior now. I also found some original rear side panel arm rests and painted them a color that very closely resembles the pearl white so I could finally replace the crappy aftermarket junk I put in after I got the car.

I installed a new Ausley's radio and replaced my Retrosound. No difference in sound, just looks more original which I liked. I also purchased the kick panels from OPGI with the Kenwood 6.5" speakers. I painted the entire panel & speaker grill with SEM black and you can barely tell they are even there, or they at least do not jump out at you when looking inside the car. Parking brake works and the install was simple. They don't sound wonderful but are much better than the crap I had in the dash.

Not my photo but rather of a guy I know in south GA with his Ausley radio installed.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/zachschevelle/DSC_0022-2.jpg

Two other things that will be changing on the car when it comes back home.

I am replacing the (brand new) Hotchkis - Bilstein shocks with Double Adjustable Front & Rears. For the back I went with an AFCO Eliminator 3870R1 from Speedway Motors and on the front I opted for QA1 Stocker Star shocks from UMI Performance (couldn't find another D/A shock to fit through the lower control arm and was not going to cut my brand new tubular A-Arms)
http://static.speedwaymotors.com/RS/SR/Product/1063870R1_L.jpghttp://www.umiperformance.com/catalog/images/large/dastockerfront_LRG.jpg

These should help me get the power planted at the track and still maintain a quality ride when just cruising around town.

Now to the bad....

When I had the car at the speed shop and on the lift I noticed a couple small bubbles in the rear pass. quarter panel, just behind the rear wheel. Well the drag radials required rolling the quarter lip a little and when we did a nice crack developed through the paint, a bondo crack. I took the car to someone I know and does absolutely stunning cars to have it looked at and well.... The photos can tell the rest.... Pretty annoyed this was not fixed when I had my car stripped down not even 1 year ago. I briefly talked to Neil & Darrell and I don't know if there was a miscommunication or what but I would not have just left this if I had known. It is what it is, now I just have to pay to have it all stripped and cut out. It'll get there though and the guy who has the car now does some AMAZING work!!

Photo showing small bubble in paint
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/photo.jpg?t=1334927030

Crack that developed
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/image.jpg

Next post for the aftermath.....

fleming23

04-26-2012, 07:31 AM

What was hiding underneath
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/383387_278054245615979_174216372666434_605484_3744 82822_n.jpg
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/306688_278047812283289_174216372666434_605469_9771 77612_n.jpg
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/2c97ee92.jpg?t=1334921614

And as of yesterday, the quarter & inner wheel house getting cut out for good metal to go back in.
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/1970%20Chevelle/a09c9248.jpg?t=1335442132

So with these set backs I haven't had the car home in a bit. I am also going to have the rear window pulled because I am pretty sure there was a problem in the window channel that just got seam sealed & I want it fixed correctly with new metal. I am just hoping to have all this done in time for CB12!!

And finally a photo of one of Derrick's (the body shop owner) cars.
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo198/efleming_23/Miscellaneous%20Pictures/210959_189896157765122_174216372666434_389856_5939 33899_o.jpg?t=1335443514